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Post by TheMissingSock Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:19 am

Are u guys for or against it? Do u guys think its a form of child abuse or do u think its a-ok?

I think as long as u spank the kid with ur hand (not a tool like a spoon, etc.) its fine. U cant always reason with kids when they are little so a good spanking can do some good I think.
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Post by Ninja frog Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:27 pm

violence is never the answer, it only causes more violence
words can be more powerful anyway
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Post by Acheaopterix Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:32 pm

Hard for words to do much if the kid dont speak yet
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Post by Nyanquaza Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:38 pm

:/

Do not like.

If people grow up with being hurt, they then hurt others...how people are raised affects their personalities.

(I know this from experience and don't question me about that or I'll get sad Sad)
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Post by TheMissingSock Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:06 am

Acheaopterix wrote:Hard for words to do much if the kid dont speak yet
^This^
Nyanquaza wrote::/

Do not like.

If people grow up with being hurt, they then hurt others...how people are raised affects their personalities.

(I know this from experience and don't question me about that or I'll get sad Sad)
Well its not like it beating the kids for every tiny mistake they make with whips and chains and rulers and etc. Just if they keep doing it , are being bratty, and arent listening give em a a few spanks not bruitly hard but enough to be a bit painful. And its not like ud hurt them enough to make them mentaly scared so they harm others. If the kid is so naughty hed deserve a spank often they should of course be taken for counceling and help.
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Post by dayman82 Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:36 am

i dont think its right to spank a kid.
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Post by Ninja frog Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:13 am

Acheaopterix wrote:Hard for words to do much if the kid dont speak yet
then how can they understand what they are doing is wrong?

Nyanquaza wrote::/

Do not like.

If people grow up with being hurt, they then hurt others...how people are raised affects their personalities.
^this

socky wrote:Well its not like it beating the kids for every tiny mistake they make with whips and chains and rulers and etc. Just if they keep doing it , are being bratty, and arent listening give em a a few spanks not bruitly hard but enough to be a bit painful. And its not like ud hurt them enough to make them mentaly scared so they harm others. If the kid is so naughty hed deserve a spank often they should of course be taken for counceling and help.
you can make a child cry without touching them the pen is greater than the sword as they say
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Post by Nyanquaza Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:11 am

Ninja frog wrote:you can make a child cry without touching them the pen is greater than the sword as they say

^This. Sad
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Post by Haxorus Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:22 pm

I don't like this topic, period.

Ninja frog wrote:you can make a child cry without touching them the pen is greater than the sword as they say

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You give me a sword and defend yourself with a pen. trollsta
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Post by TheMissingSock Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:27 pm

Yes u can make them cry by yelling at them, but I think u should get serious and raise ur voice when they do somthing bad to teach them early on not to use mommys lipatick to paint pretty pictures in the carpet or to smack their brother in the head with a toy truck. I know some kids who would do it again cus they think its funny. After the third time I say u should stop yelling and using words and simply give em a good smack on the toosh.
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Post by Ninja frog Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:05 pm

Hax wrote:

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Ok I'll write to the police and have you arrested while I run away
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Post by Acheaopterix Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:30 pm

Ninja frog wrote:
Acheaopterix wrote:Hard for words to do much if the kid dont speak yet
then how can they understand what they are doing is wrong?

they dont, they just understand that doing that action cause them pain, therefore, they dont do it,
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Post by Ninja frog Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:36 am

Think about the common factors there would be many actions that caused the pain and one or two people the pain is associated with the people not the action
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Post by TheMissingSock Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:19 am

Ninja im pretty sure thats only if the person spanks the kid a lot.
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Post by Haxorus Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:07 pm

Acheaopterix wrote:
Ninja frog wrote:
Acheaopterix wrote:Hard for words to do much if the kid dont speak yet
then how can they understand what they are doing is wrong?

they dont, they just understand that doing that action cause them pain, therefore, they dont do it,
I agree completely, Achy.
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Post by Ninja frog Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:42 pm

The pain isn't directy related to the action so no link is made

The only known expample to work is electric dog collers and if that's painfully your useing it wrong and it only works because its instant

Also I Hardly think a child two to three years of age deserves spanking for misdeeds
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Post by TheMissingSock Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:16 pm

Ninja frog wrote:The pain isn't directy related to the action so no link is made

The only known expample to work is electric dog collers and if that's painfully your useing it wrong and it only works because its instant

Also I Hardly think a child two to three years of age deserves spanking for misdeeds

Ur right if the parent sees the child do somthing horrible a while after the child did it so the kid would forget and just go up and spank them. I do think that's wrong. However, if the parent makes it clear they are mad about the action the child did by leading them to the scene of the crime, yell, and then spank them, the kid will understand that it was because of the action they did that got them spanked. It's the same as teaching a cat not to jump up on the kitchen table by squirting them with a squirt bottle. They see that if they get on the table they get wet. When I got spanked I knew never to do what I did again.
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Post by Soylent Blue Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:30 pm

Don't do anything that would cause actual pain. Parents need to be able to express dissatisfaction though. I say give them harsh/disappointed looks. And use raised voice if necessary. No spanking.
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Post by mortified_penguin Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:05 pm

Discipline is one of the greatest problems in America today. I was spanked as a child. I'm pretty sure I don't go around beating up little kids and slapping the elderly. Spanking is completely acceptable, as long it's in a loving manner and non-abusive.
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Post by Nyanquaza Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:43 pm

mortified_penguin wrote:Discipline is one of the greatest problems in America today. I was spanked as a child. I'm pretty sure I don't go around beating up little kids and slapping the elderly. Spanking is completely acceptable, as long it's in a loving manner and non-abusive.
How is hurting someone loving? I can understand cases such as blocking an attack from hitting someone you care for - my roleplay characters do that a lot - in which it would hurt them to see you hurt, but hitting someone is NOT loving.

Except in such cases as the attack healing the one being hit, that could count as loving.
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Post by TheMissingSock Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:51 pm

Nyanquaza wrote:
mortified_penguin wrote:Discipline is one of the greatest problems in America today. I was spanked as a child. I'm pretty sure I don't go around beating up little kids and slapping the elderly. Spanking is completely acceptable, as long it's in a loving manner and non-abusive.
How is hurting someone loving? I can understand cases such as blocking an attack from hitting someone you care for - my roleplay characters do that a lot - in which it would hurt them to see you hurt, but hitting someone is NOT loving.

Except in such cases as the attack healing the one being hit, that could count as loving.
Like say a kid goes into daddys toolshed and starts playing with daddys electrical screwdriving and doing things that were completely unsafe. U spank them to teach them quickly it is a no-no to do that incase going "grrrr, ugh, dont do that, bad boy" and getting angry dosent work. U spank em out of love because u dont want them hurting themselfs.

Also spanking can be loving when u have sex.
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Post by Ninja frog Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:05 am

i have never been spanked and i also don't beat up kids and the elderly

also sock that could be reprimanded with words physical action is not required
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Post by George Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:11 pm

take the most disobedient (darn forgot how to spell it) kids and they will all either be a. not spanked or b. spanked way too much
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Post by Ninja frog Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:46 am

my mother in law can use words like a lead pipe
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Post by mortified_penguin Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:53 am

Whenever my parents would spank me, they would sit me down, tell me that they weren't angry, that they still loved me, and then explain why I was being spanked. I don't hate them. I respect them more for it. But if they shoved me in a bathroom and started whaling on me and screaming about my shortcomings, that would be a different story.

Ninja Frog wrote:my mother in law can use words like a lead pipe

You're MARRIED?????


And I have always found words to be less effective than physical punishment. The whole "Actions speak louder than words" and whatnot. And if your words ARE harsh enough to punish the child, then they also usually make him/her feel put down and rejected.
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